Ultimate Reality
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Are the statistics out yet?
by slimboyfat inisn’t it about time they released the report for the service year?
or have they stopped publishing it?
did they released selected figures at the annual meeting as they usually do, such as the memorial attendance or record number of pioneers?
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Are the teachings of JW—consistent?
by Fisherman ini would belief so but if you can point something out, it can be discussed.. i don’t mean what jw taught in the past that they later realized was not correct and amended.
—unless you think and can show something like that is relevant.. i’ve spoken to a lot of believers from different religions.
i don’t want to bash any religion here under this topic but their beliefs are inconsistent and their reasons are sophistry and made up and grounded on circular reasoning.
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Ultimate Reality
"We cannot take part in any modern version of idolatry-be it worshipful gestures toward an image or symbol or the imputing of salvation to a person or an organization." –Watchtower, November 1, 1990, page 26
"...identifying themselves with Jehovah’s organization is essential to their salvation." -Our Kingdom Ministry, November 1990, page 1
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Do you think the Door to Door KNOCKING - field service will EVER resume AGAIN?
by pistolpete inif i was a jw, and covid put and end to the door to door work for two years, and kingdom halls closed, it would get me to re-visit and think about the stupidity of the overlapping generation, and how they extended the deadline for armageddon to 2072.
(1992 franz death +80 more years).
if i was 20 years of age, plus another 80 = 100 years of age for the system to end.
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Ultimate Reality
Another aspect that may impact resuming the door-to-door work is legal liability.
The Organization has used the excuse in court cases that every JW engages in a “personal” ministry that is essentially disconnected from the any centralized directives. Of course, this is not true but they use it as cover when something bad happens between publishers (such as abuse).
It’s easier to get away with this excuse since it is difficult to trace the origin of JW activities…the preaching work has been going on for well over 100 years.
Now, however, it’s been shut down by a centralized directive from the Governing Body. Can the Governing Body now order everyone back into the field, door-to-door, and still maintain the line that all this is just a personal ministry to which the Organization has little connection and no liability?
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2020-Articles Of Association--Bylaws--Notice Of Special Meeting! (as of 2020-11-25)
by Atlantis in2020--articles of association and bylaws--3 pages.. .
2020--notice of special meeting in december--8 pages.
if you are a jw read carefully before you sign.. .
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Ultimate Reality
Yes, please Petra. Thank you.
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2020--Civil Unrest--Food Distribution Pause--Computer Security! (as of 2020-11-05)
by Atlantis in3 letters:.
1. civil unrest.
2. food distribution pause.
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Ultimate Reality
Yes, Please! ...and, Thank you!
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New terminology? “Donations in Support of Kingdom Interests Worldwide”
by Ultimate Reality inpetra/atlantis recently posted and supplied a document on donations.
what stood out to me, besides the usual nonsense, was the phrase, “donations in support of kingdom interests worldwide.”.
this appears to be a change in terminology from donations in support of the “worldwide work of jehovah’s witnesses.”.
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Ultimate Reality
Petra/Atlantis recently posted and supplied a document on donations. What stood out to me, besides the usual nonsense, was the phrase, “Donations in Support of Kingdom Interests Worldwide.”
This appears to be a change in terminology from donations in support of the “Worldwide Work of Jehovah’s Witnesses.”
Perhaps that’s because there’s no actual work being done...but there has to be some underlying reason. Any thoughts?
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2020-November-9--Donation Announcement! (as of 2020-10-13)
by Atlantis in2020-11-09 donation announcement.. .
donations in support of kingdom interests worldwide.. .
reply below and i'll swing by your pm box with a link.. .
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Ultimate Reality
Yes, a link please, Petra. Thank you!
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2020-New-October-Elders-Manual-Addendum-and-S-147-Announcements! (as of 2020-10-02)
by Atlantis innew--2020-october--shepherd the flock of god--elder manual.
new--2020-october--addendum to elder manual.
2020--october-s-147-e--announcements and reminders.
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Ultimate Reality
Please send me the link...thank you for your excellent work!
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That escalated quickly... (Quote from today's Zoom public talk)
by Jofi_Wofo inthe speaker at my wife's meeting: "a discouraging word can lead to inactivity, apostasy and death.".
i mean, what the...??????
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Ultimate Reality
Let’s discourage the Governing Body.
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1914 Dropped
by pale.emperor inso i was observing an online conversation between a jw and a former-jw.
the non-jw pointed out that wwi cant have had anything to do with satan supposedly being "cast out of heaven" because wwi was already well under way in oct 1914.. the jw proceeds to explain that satan was actually thrown down to the earth in 1915 and that he started to wreak havock on the earth from heaven knowing he was about to be cast out.. so 1914 is officially old light now?
does anyone have a source for that or was this brother lying through his teeth?.
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Ultimate Reality
While it's all non-sense, 1914 is important because it is calculated from the (incorrect) 607 BCE date for the fall of Jerusalem, which ultimately gets them to the most important year, 1919, with the appointment of the Faithful Slave/Governing Body. Their self-proclaimed authority is dependent on this incredibly weak thread.